Chief Batchelor. Yes, there were others. I don't recall just exactly. It wasn't full. It was a Sunday, and Chief Stevenson's car was parked over here somewhere, and Chief Lunday's, Lumpkin's car was parked here.

Mr. Griffin. Was there general traffic of police cars in and out of the garage?

Chief Batchelor. There would have been. However, on Sunday morning, that time of day there is very little traffic in and out of there. It is one of the quietest times. There were two or three other cars parked in here.

Mr. Griffin. When you went down to the basement at that time, were there news people in the basement?

Chief Batchelor. Yes, sir. When we went down in there the next time, there was some cameras setting up here that had just been rolled in. They weren't operative.

Mr. Griffin. Let's focus on this trip that you took downstairs with, was it Stevenson?

Chief Batchelor. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. At 9:15 or 9:30. What is your best estimate of the number of news people that were down there?

Chief Batchelor. I don't know. I can tell you a better estimate when we finally went down there.

Mr. Griffin. Was it crowded or sparsely crowded?