Chief Batchelor. It wasn't crowded; no. There wasn't any big congregation. There may be two or three people from—some television people standing around there, trying to get set up, and they had some cables and stuff in there, and the best I remember, we told them they were going to have to move those cables out of there. And we instructed Lieutenant Wiggins to move these two vehicles out.

Mr. Griffin. Those were the two that are on the Main Street side of the entrance into the garage area?

Chief Batchelor. Yes, north side. And that we were going to have this for the news media to stand behind the rail.

Mr. Griffin. Right where the two cars were that you wanted to be moved?

Chief Batchelor. Yes; and we instructed the television people that they would have to put their cameras on this side of the driveway.

Mr. Griffin. Did you talk to any newspeople yourself?

Chief Batchelor. I didn't myself. I was present there. I don't remember exactly who directed, whether it was Chief Curry or Stevenson or myself, but I mean it was three of us standing there, and we all agreed that this needed to be done, and one of us told them.

Mr. Griffin. Now this first trip down to the basement, what did you do besides direct that the two cars on either side of the garage entrance be moved, and that the camera be moved back there?

Chief Batchelor. We went over in here, and there were some detectives around in here.

Mr. Griffin. Now can you indicate in words what you are referring to on the map?