Captain Talbert. And it was locked; yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert. Now, did you check the several entrances on the alleyway which runs from Main to about halfway up the block and makes an L-turn and then runs to Pearl?
Captain Talbert. I did not check that entrance, because the thing is locked any time after 6, and on the weekends. We can't enter that way. Matter of fact, we have orders not to enter that way at anytime, but sometimes we, in parking, we find it convenient to enter through that elevator and the service elevator from that entrance, and we always find it locked. We have to get a porter's attention by banging on the door to get it unlocked.
Mr. Hubert. Since we are on that subject, how would you go through that service entrance on the alleyway into the first floor of the municipal building?
Captain Talbert. The service entrance has some side doors leading off of it. I don't know whether they are broom closets, or go into rooms or what, but into the service elevator, both sides of the elevator has operable doors.
Mr. Hubert. That is—so call it the Harwood side on the elevator, and the Pearl Street side.
Captain Talbert. This is going to the Central Expressway over here [indicating].
Mr. Hubert. Yes.
Captain Talbert. And, so, the—the expressway side and the Harwood Street side has doors that do open. Both sides of that elevator have doors that would open, and the operator could open either one of them, and you can come in from the entrance and exit from this Harwood Street side. Enter from the expressway side and exit from the Harwood Street side.
Mr. Hubert. If it were possible for a person to gain entrance through the service entrance into the first floor of the municipal building by use of the service elevator, that is to say, by walking through both of the doors of the elevator, he could then get into the stairwell of the fire escape on the first floor, could he not?