Captain Talbert. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert. And by walking down to the basement level at the point——
Captain Talbert. Designated "4"?
Mr. Hubert. Designated "4," he could get into the basement area in that way.
Captain Talbert. Yes, sir; but we had an operator on the service elevator with instructions not to allow anyone to basement, and he was—allowed no one to come in.
Mr. Hubert. Do you know who that person was?
Captain Talbert. I believe his name is Mitchell, sir, to the best of my memory, is his name.
Mr. Hubert. Is he a member of the police department?
Captain Talbert. No, sir; he is a porter, a colored porter who works within the city hall building, itself.
Mr. Hubert. Did you talk to that man?