Mr. Hubert. Do you know that?
Captain Talbert. If he was moved after 11 I don't know who moved him or where he went, but the reserve officer "9" was in place at that time.
Mr. Hubert. You don't know what his name was?
Captain Talbert. I believe Brock is going to be his name, but I am not sure.
Mr. Hubert. I think it is Brock. Now, then, you mentioned something about drawing off persons to patrol the intersection of Elm Street?
Captain Talbert. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert. Would you tell us something about that, please?
Captain Talbert. We had kept as many officers out of the basement area as possible to keep from adding to the confusion of the search so we could make a systematic search, and I had retained all of the excess officers, and, as I recall, numbered about 13 regular police officers in my office and the reserve officers, and excesses were retained in an assembly room which would be behind the jail office, and after about 11—let's back up and make that about 10:45—in that vicinity, Chief Stevenson and Chief Lumpkin contacted me about the route of the proposed transfer of Lee Harvey Oswald, and they asked—correction—I asked if we were going to use marked cars or plain cars, or if we were going to utilize sirens to stop traffic at intersections?
Chief Stevenson said he didn't want any attention attracted to the transfer that wasn't already attracted to it, and asked if I had enough personnel to put in the intersection of Elm Street. First he said Main Street. The first route planned was Main, and it was changed to Elm before I could so disperse the personnel, so, actually, we utilized Elm all through this.
Mr. Hubert. Just as it was?