Mr. Griffin. Were you paying any attention?
Chief Batchelor. Not particularly. I do remember seeing it.
Mr. Griffin. After Pierce and Maxey's car broke through the line of newsmen, what do you remember next happening?
Chief Batchelor. I remember backing these or pulling up these two detective cars that were to carry Oswald, and one detective pulled up here a little ways, and he had to pull up a little further so this one could get up, and they then backed up. And this one had hardly gotten in place, barely had stopped, when somebody shouted, "Here he comes."
Mr. Griffin. All right, now, are you sure—how certain are you that these two detective cars pulled out after Pierce and Maxey?
Chief Batchelor. I don't think Pierce and Maxey could have gotten out with those two detective cars where they were.
Mr. Griffin. Sounds pretty good to me.
Chief Batchelor. While they were in place, they couldn't have pulled around here, because they were blocking this entrance here.
Mr. Griffin. All right. Now, who drove those two detective cars?
Chief Batchelor. I don't recall. Men out of the Homicide Bureau, but I don't know which ones.