Mr. Hubert. All right. When did you first see Ruby in that crowd?

Mr. Combest. Just as they started to lead Oswald past me, at the corner there I observed him lunge from the crowd. Almost the whole line of people pushed forward when Oswald started to leave the jail office, the door, the hall—all the newsmen were poking their sound mikes across to him and asking questions, and they were everyone sticking their flashbulbs up and around and over him and in his face. I don't—when he first lunged forward I don't think anyone noticed him. I didn't until he came apart from the crowd and continued on towards Oswald.

Mr. Hubert. Now, did he come from the area—we have marked on this Exhibit 5100 as "area A" or as "area B," sir?

Mr. Combest. The best I could tell he would be coming approximately half way between them there, between what you have marked as "area A," and "area B."

Mr. Hubert. Sort of from the corner there?

Mr. Combest. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. I would like for you to take the pen and mark an "X" on the spot that you first saw Ruby.

Mr. Combest. About approximately [indicating], because——

Mr. Hubert. This was really the front line "1," through "2."

Mr. Combest. Yes, sir.