Mr. Hubert. And I'm writing on the map, "Position where Ruby was first seen by Combest." Was he standing still then?

Mr. Combest. No, sir; he was stepping forward and—or lunging forward, I guess would be the best way to put it.

Mr. Hubert. You had not seen him, of course, prior to that moment?

Mr. Combest. No, sir; I had not.

Mr. Hubert. Had you seen him in the crowd at all?

Mr. Combest. No, sir; I had not.

Mr. Hubert. Had you seen him coming down?

Mr. Combest. No, sir; when I was standing with the crowd I couldn't see the ramp there, the Main Street ramp.

Mr. Hubert. You could see a part of it, couldn't you, the bottom?

Mr. Combest. Well, no, sir; it slanted up and they had an air conditioner sitting across here where you have to be almost in your—standing directly in the bottom of the ramp you couldn't see the top of it very clearly.