Mr. Griffin. What happened when you heard the shot fired? What did you do?
Chief Batchelor. Well, actually before the shot was fired, when I was standing along here, and when somebody shouted, "Here he comes." I started to go to that truck, that armored truck and close the doors on it, the back doors so it could take off. And I turned to do that when I heard the shot. I hadn't taken over a step or two over to the door when he was shot.
Mr. Griffin. Then what did you do?
Chief Batchelor. I turned around and looked back and came over there. There was a whole group of people had him down. It was a big——
Mr. Griffin. Had Ruby down?
Chief Batchelor. Had Ruby down. They had pulled Oswald into the jail office, and then pulled Ruby in behind him.
I went into the jail office to look at them, and they had Ruby down on the floor on his back and was trying to handcuff him.
Mr. Griffin. Let's focus on the time when they had Ruby down on the ground out there on the ramp, the ramp area. Where did you stand at that point?
Chief Batchelor. I stood off in the crowd. I didn't even see what was going on. There was such a crowd.