Chief Batchelor. No, sir.

Mr. Griffin. Did you hear any of the police officers say anything?

Chief Batchelor. No, sir; not when I walked right up there to it. But I did hear someone shout, "Jack, don't you so-and-so," but this was before they got him down. I mean, this was almost simultaneous with the shot.

Mr. Griffin. Did you follow Ruby and Oswald into the jail office then?

Chief Batchelor. After a little bit, a minute or two after, I remained in the jail office and asked Lieutenant Wiggins if they had called an ambulance, and he said they had.

I walked over and looked at Oswald, and this intern had come in and was giving him some pressure on his lower rib section.

Mr. Griffin. Where did you see Ruby at that time?

Chief Batchelor. I saw him on the floor. I couldn't see him too well. There was several men on top. He was still struggling in the jail office, but they had already gotten the gun away from him and they were trying to get him handcuffed and get him down and laying still, but he was fighting them.

Mr. Griffin. Did you hear him say anything?

Chief Batchelor. No; I don't recall anything he said.