Mr. Cutchshaw. Well, I know we weren't down there too long, and when they brought Oswald and he was shot, I think it was a little after 11, or 20 minutes after, something like that.

Mr. Griffin. Do you recall who all went downstairs with you at that time?

Mr. Cutchshaw. I think it was Detective Goolsby, R. L. Lowery, and myself, and I don't remember who else went down. I know we three were together.

Mr. Griffin. Do you recall what happened when you got out of the elevator?

Mr. Cutchshaw. Yes; we walked into this little hallway lobby deal right in front of the jail office, and we had to wait there for a while. They had an officer on guard there at the entrance to the hallway.

Mr. Griffin. Do you recall who that officer was?

Mr. Cutchshaw. No, sir; I don't.

Mr. Griffin. Now, when you left the jail office, who was it you said went down with you? Goolsby, Lowery, and who else?

Mr. Cutchshaw. That is the only two, is Officer Goolsby, Lowery, and myself.

Mr. Griffin. Do you recall where Miller and Harrison were?