Mr. Cutchshaw. When I was standing at the door, I had it closed, and I looked out and I saw the camera here with only two men.
Mr. Griffin. Why did you go over to the camera?
Mr. Cutchshaw. Because I remember three men being with the camera in this area here.
Mr. Griffin. I see. Did you have reason to think one of them might be Ruby?
Mr. Cutchshaw. I didn't at the time, because I figured if there were three men pushing it out, why wouldn't there be three men trying to get it up the ramp.
Mr. Griffin. How many did you see get it up the ramp?
Mr. Cutchshaw. Two.
Mr. Griffin. Did you detain those men?
Mr. Cutchshaw. Yes.
Mr. Griffin. Did anybody assist?