Mr. Cutchshaw. Officer Lowery.

Mr. Griffin. Anybody else?

Mr. Cutchshaw. Not at the time, because we finally got Lieutenant Swain over there and he talked with them awhile, and at that time when he and Lowery had them, or Swain talked to them, we got their names where we would be able to ask information of them later.

Mr. Griffin. Who was the first one of the two of you to arrive at the TV cameras? Was it Lowery or was he there when you came up?

Mr. Cutchshaw. No.

Mr. Griffin. How much later did Lowery come up?

Mr. Cutchshaw. When I got over there and this one, I don't know what the names are, I think this one that had the coat on was Alexander, as well as I can remember. He was kind of nervous and shaky. So, then I called Lowery to help me out, because I didn't know whether they might be involved or not.

Mr. Griffin. Do you remember where Lowery was standing when you called him over?

Mr. Cutchshaw. I believe he was right over in this area. I am not too sure, but I think he was, because I could see him from here.

Mr. Griffin. The point you are talking about is in front of the double doors?