So, I don't know whether I was looking at the camera at the time I was down here, but I didn't see anyone go around to the camera.
Mr. Griffin. At the time that the TV camera came through the door, the double doors, you were looking through another glass?
Mr. Cutchshaw. No; now at the time it came through the door, this door was being opened from the inside.
Mr. Griffin. This single door that entered into the jail office opened inward toward the jail office, and it didn't obstruct your view?
Mr. Cutchshaw. No; they came through the swinging door. I was standing in the doorway and I held this door open.
Mr. Griffin. You held open the swinging doors for them?
Mr. Cutchshaw. Right; when they came through.
Mr. Griffin. You pulled it back toward yourself?
Mr. Cutchshaw. They were already going past, and I grabbed ahold.
Mr. Griffin. So, the swinging doors were between you, your face and them?