Mr. Cutchshaw. The way you are talking is that I am concerned that I think we have done something wrong. I don't think there is one wrongdoing, as far as the officers are concerned and what happened down there. I didn't think like that.

Departmental wise or individualwise, there are things pro and con of what should have happened and what shouldn't have happened.

One way of looking, there shouldn't have been any news media, and maybe they shouldn't have been spread out that way, but we would have caught the dickens that way.

And, as I heard, Chief Curry had the okay from a little higher up to go ahead and have the news media, and it didn't turn out too good.

But as far as wrongdoings, there is not one wrong thing that happened as far as our department is concerned.

Mr. Griffin. How about Lowery? Are you much of a friend with Lowery?

Mr. Cutchshaw. We ride to work together and run around a bit together.

Mr. Griffin. How friendly are you with Harrison?

Mr. Cutchshaw. We are good friends, but as far as running around, he lives way over in Pleasant Grove, and I live in Grand Prairie. It is way across town, so we don't get around together.

Mr. Griffin. Lowery had seen Ruby. Did Lowery know Ruby?