Mr. Hubert. That is to say, to your right, is that right?
Captain Martin. Yes; across here [indicating]. And all up in here [indicating].
Mr. Hubert. There were people between—on your right, between you and——
Captain Martin. And——
Mr. Hubert. And the Main Street ramp?
Captain Martin. Right.
Mr. Hubert. How many people were there in that general area?
Captain Martin. I just would have to make an estimate.
Mr. Hubert. That's right.
Captain Martin. I would say between me and where he was, there was 8 or 10 people.