Mr. Armstrong. Once—once or twice he came down to help out—once he came down to help out and he came in two other times that I remember.

Mr. Hubert. So, in other words, Jack denied that he had any interest in the Carousel?

Mr. Armstrong. Yes, sir; right.

Mr. Hubert. What was his relationship, then, to the Carousel?

Mr. Armstrong. Well, as manager only.

Mr. Hubert. Did he get a salary, do you know?

Mr. Armstrong. He said he got a salary, but I don’t know how much.

Mr. Hubert. Other than the two or three times that Sam Ruby came in, did you ever see him?

Mr. Armstrong. Did I ever see Sam Ruby?

Mr. Hubert. Yes.