Mr. Armstrong. No; I never saw him.
Mr. Hubert. Did you ever see Ralph, other than the times you saw him at the club?
Mr. Armstrong. Never did.
Mr. Hubert. Did you ever hear of the S&R Corp.?
Mr. Armstrong. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert. What was your understanding of the relationship between that corporation and the Carousel?
Mr. Armstrong. Well, it was known as the S&R Corp. doing business as the Carousel, is the way the thing was supposed to be, and as far as the corporation was concerned, I understand that Ralph Paul was president, Sam Ruby was secretary-vice president and there was somebody else who was—well, I believe Sam Ruby was secretary-treasurer, and Jack was the manager, or something like that at one time, and then at another time, Jack wasn’t even the manager.
Mr. Hubert. When was that?
Mr. Armstrong. Well, it was after all this happened.
Mr. Hubert. Oh, yes.