Mr. Armstrong. Well, the policemen always paid the same price as newsmen and their boys, which was 40 cents on beer, policemen, bellboys, hotel clerks and things like that and newsmen.

Mr. Hubert. They all had a cut rate?

Mr. Armstrong. They all had a cut rate.

Mr. Hubert. That was true of members of the vice squad too?

Mr. Armstrong. That included members of the vice squad. Of course, I never seen any members of the vice squad take anything to drink, any beer or anything like that.

Mr. Hubert. I think you mentioned one particular member of the vice squad called Gilmore?

Mr. Armstrong. Mr. Gilmore.

Mr. Hubert. Tell us about him?

Mr. Armstrong. Well, Mr. Gilmore is a man that will, I believe and everybody else believes, and Jack was afraid of Mr. Gilmore—I know of.

Mr. Hubert. How do you know he was afraid of him?