Mr. Hubert. Did you notice how long they stayed?
Mr. Crafard. I wouldn’t know how long they would stay with Jack. He might take off at 11 o’clock in the morning and wouldn’t be back all day.
Mr. Hubert. What I mean is, do you have any recollection of seeing him leave with one of those men or either of them and then come back with them?
Mr. Crafard. I don’t recall him doing so. He might have.
Mr. Hubert. Have you any recollection that having left with one of those men he came back alone and particularly at what time or how much longer did he come back alone, how much later did he come back alone?
Mr. Crafard. I have no recollection of that either. He was—people would come to the club to see him, he would go downstairs, leave with them, and sometimes he would be gone the rest of the afternoon or sometimes he would come back.
Mr. Hubert. What we would like you to tell us is, what there was about these two men from California that makes their visits there still a part of your memory.
Mr. Crafard. Just the fact that shipping the dogs to California, I kind of more or less associated the fact and that they were from Los Angeles.
Mr. Hubert. Did you ever gather where they were staying while they were in Dallas?
Mr. Crafard. I don’t know.