Mr. Crafard. It must have been 5 or 5:30.
Mr. Hubert. So it was something like midnight or shortly after when you got to Lansing?
Mr. Crafard. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. And you say about halfway between; that is when you had lunch or supper?
Mr. Crafard. That is right.
Mr. Hubert. Or about 8 o’clock, do you think; 9 o’clock?
Mr. Crafard. It must have been about 8—8 or 8:30—something like that.
Mr. Hubert. When did you first hear that Oswald had been shot?
Mr. Crafard. I had heard that Oswald had been shot Sunday evening.
Mr. Hubert. Where?