Mr. Crafard. I think I probably traveled about 60 or 70 miles before I got a good ride.

Mr. Hubert. That point, 60 or 75 miles beyond Lansing being the same point at which you got a good ride, was what place?

Mr. Crafard. I don’t remember.

Mr. Hubert. Was it a large city, a small town?

Mr. Crafard. It was a small place as far as I can remember.

Mr. Hubert. Was that the last hitch you had?

Mr. Crafard. I believe I got one more after that. I think that one carried me to Mount Pleasant.

Mr. Hubert. To Mount Pleasant?

Mr. Crafard. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. How far is Mount Pleasant from Lansing?