The man who picked you up 60 miles on the other side of Lansing let you off before light?
Mr. Crafard. I walked about 5 miles before I got a ride with him.
Mr. Hubert. Was it light when you got a ride with him?
Mr. Crafard. I don’t believe so. I have lost some time somewhere between leaving Dallas and getting there because I didn’t get into Clare until 9:30 at night. It was 9:30 at night when I got into Clare.
Mr. Hubert. At the present time, you are telling us that you picked up this last long ride took you into Mount Pleasant. Let’s find out what time you got into Mount Pleasant, because, you see, you told us you don’t know what place it was where you picked up that ride, except that it was somewhat about 60 miles on the other side of Lansing.
Mr. Crafard. Yes, sir; I didn’t get into Clare until, I think it was 9 or 9:30 at night. I’ve lost at least 8 hours of time.
Mr. Hubert. Of course I don’t know that you have because I don’t know what geography or distance we are talking about.
Mr. Crafard. The distance isn’t that great. It only is 15 miles from Mount Pleasant to Clare.
Mr. Hubert. Let’s start this way. What time did you get to Mount Pleasant?
Mr. Crafard. I think it was about 8:30 at night when I got to Mount Pleasant because it was 9:30, I’m almost positive it was 9 or 9:30 when I got into Clare, because I went over to my cousin’s house in Clare. I remember that.