Mr. Griffin. Now, how long a period of time lapsed from the time you stopped answering the telephone calls until you got out on the third floor hallway with Oswald?
Mr. Graves. Ten or 15 minutes, I guess, approximately.
Mr. Griffin. Now, when you stopped answering the telephone calls to go into Captain Fritz’ office, were you aware that you were going in there for the purpose of getting ready to move Oswald out?
Mr. Graves. Yes.
Mr. Griffin. How did you become aware of that?
Mr. Graves. We were told that we were going to move him.
Mr. Griffin. Who told you that?
Mr. Graves. Captain Fritz.
Mr. Griffin. He told you?
Mr. Graves. Yes; I don’t know whether he walked out and told me. You know, in the process, the door was opened and he talked to some of us at the door and so forth.