Mr. Griffin. Now, prior to the time that you actually went out there in the hallway with Oswald, did you have any information as to whether the people who were members of the press were aware that Oswald was about to be brought out?
Mr. Graves. I—it was my understanding they knew that he was to be transferred at 10 o’clock.
Mr. Griffin. Well, I mean——
Mr. Graves. Well, no, no; we—if you mean if we—told them when we were leaving with him, we didn’t do that. We just walked out with him.
Mr. Griffin. But what about a sharp newsman who was keeping his eyes and ears open? Could he see through the door? Could he see the activity?
Mr. Graves. Could he see the preparation——
Mr. Griffin. For bringing out——
Mr. Graves. Yes.
Mr. Griffin. Could one see Oswald putting on his sweater, for example?
Mr. Graves. Maybe not that, but he could have seen us pass it over to him. I believe those blinds were open there on—coming out to the secretary’s office there. I believe they were. I’m not sure about that, but if they were open they could have seen from the front door standing at the hallway at an angle. They could have seen that sweater or clothes changing hands. I don’t believe where Oswald was standing he could see him from that angle, but I—like I said, a good, sharp newsman knowing the activity, he could see and naturally know that something was fixing to happen.