Mr. Griffin. When you arrived at the elevators on the third floor, was the elevator there waiting for you?

Mr. Graves. I think it was waiting right there for us.

Mr. Griffin. Now, which elevator did you come down in?

Mr. Graves. It is called the inside jail elevator, which is used only for the transfer of prisoners from one floor to the other and basement.

Mr. Griffin. And who went into the elevator with you?

Mr. Graves. Well, it was Leavelle, Montgomery, Swain, and Captain Fritz and myself and, of course, Oswald.

Mr. Griffin. Where was Chief Curry at that time?

Mr. Graves. I don’t know. He left just before we did and I don’t know where he went.

Mr. Griffin. How long would you estimate Chief Curry left before you people walked out of the homicide bureau with Oswald?

Mr. Graves. You know, I couldn’t tell you. I—I—actually, the chief could have been standing in there somewhere and I wouldn’t know it—because when we were given the final go to get him ready or get his sweater on him, I didn’t pay any attention to who else was in there or what happened. They told me to get him ready and walked out with him. He could have left a few minutes ahead of us; I don’t know, it would be a guess, because I really don’t know.