Mr. Graves. It was some time after the interview. And I don’t remember exactly when, but it was some time after he had talked with him. Maybe the second time, I don’t know, but it was some time after he had told him, and they told——
Mr. Griffin. Now, at the time that Ruby—at the time that you learned from Fritz that Ruby didn’t want to talk about how he got in this basement, had you already heard that Ruby came down the ramp?
Mr. Graves. Yes.
Mr. Griffin. Had you already heard the other rumors which you have related?
Mr. Graves. Yes.
Mr. Griffin. Did you later hear from Captain Fritz, or any other police officer that he had talked with Ruby and Ruby had said something about how he got in——
Mr. Graves. I didn’t hear that from Captain Fritz that I know of.
Mr. Griffin. But, from any other police officer?
Mr. Graves. Something to the effect that he told somebody how he got in there, but I never did find out the straight of that. They had started a full scale investigation in terms of what happened in the basement at that time. Nobody was telling anybody anything so I just dropped it.
Mr. Griffin. About what time did they——