Mr. Graves. Well, I can’t remember. Just some time that day after we got back there from the hospital.
Mr. Griffin. Did you hear it before or after the other rumors that you are relating?
Mr. Graves. That was the first one that I heard, really.
Mr. Griffin. That he walked down the Main Street ramp?
Mr. Graves. That he walked down the ramp when that squad car drove out.
Mr. Griffin. And people came out of Captain Fritz’ office, who had been talking with Ruby, did you hear anything coming out of Captain Fritz’ office as to how Ruby got in?
Mr. Graves. No; sure didn’t.
Mr. Griffin. Did you ever learn from any of the detectives who had been talking to Ruby in Captain Fritz’ office how Ruby got into the jail basement?
Mr. Graves. Well, let’s see. I don’t know who it was, that told me how he (Ruby) got in. Now, Captain Fritz later told us that he asked Ruby how he got in there and he told him, I believe it was, at that time that he would rather not discuss that.
Mr. Griffin. All right. And did Captain Fritz tell you this shortly after this interview that Fritz was having with Ruby?