Mr. Huffaker. Approximately.

Mr. Hubert. I will add the word “about”—is that correct?

Mr. Huffaker. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. “About 4 feet from railing.”

Mr. Huffaker. Yes; that’s correct.

Mr. Hubert. Now, were you there for about 15 or 20 minutes prior to the shooting?

Mr. Huffaker. Oh, I was there for at least a half an hour prior to the shooting. You mean in that stable position?

Mr. Hubert. Yes.

Mr. Huffaker. No, sir; not in that very spot.

Mr. Hubert. Well, how long were you in that very spot?