Mr. Phenix. To my right—a little bit.
Mr. Hubert. Then, we mark a line from 9 to 10, with point 10 being immediately to the right of point 6 where you were standing?
Mr. Phenix. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. Then, you say there were policemen along in that line too?
Mr. Phenix. Yes; police and press.
Mr. Hubert. Now, take it from there.
Mr. Phenix. Well, from there I waited until—I believe it was a United Press International movie photographer, Isidore, or something, everybody called him Izzie—I don’t know his last name, came running down from the swinging doors, I think he was the one, and said, “He’s coming,” meaning Oswald, so we all got ready, and the camera has an eyepiece——
Mr. Hubert. Your camera?
Mr. Phenix. Right; that operates through a prism that looks directly through the lens, so I had to have my eyes stuck against the eyepiece in order to see through it. So, from then on, all I saw was Oswald coming down the hallway there, and I didn’t actually—I wasn’t aware of seeing Ruby step out of the crowd—I knew something had happened and the shot—at the shot somebody came roaring in from my left and almost knocked me down. The unipod was braced on the curb and it slipped down to the main level of the ramp and almost fell, and looking through the eyepiece and over the eyepiece, too, just shooting out of habit really, the camera was running all the time—I followed the action of the policeman wrestling with Ruby—it just happened that they moved to my right.
Mr. Hubert. Your film, as a matter of fact, is that famous film that catches Ruby moving forward and the wrestling?