Mr. Hubert. Did you hear Ruby say anything?

Mr. Phenix. No; maybe in the excitement I heard him, but I don’t remember hearing this famous quotation about “Jack, you S. O. B.”

Mr. Hubert. You didn’t hear anybody; hear anything, including Ruby—anything distinguishable that you now remember?

Mr. Phenix. The only one I can remember is Bob Huffaker, who is the mike man for our live camera, saying over and over that “He’s been shot,” and he was calling him “Lee Harold Oswald.” I don’t know why—and then just in general—a few words.

Mr. Hubert. You heard him saying, “He’s been shot, he’s been shot, he’s been shot,” a number of times?

Mr. Phenix. Yes, and the policemen telling everybody to stand back.

Mr. Hubert. What about the security precautions that were in existence, and would you comment about those as far as you observed them?

Mr. Phenix. Well, as we drove in there were several officers down there, but nobody made any effort, you know, to talk to us as we drove in—we were in the car that had big KRLD letters on it and Wes Wise was known to some of them, but I wasn’t; Wes was driving the car.

Mr. Hubert. There was a guard there that seemed to look you over?

Mr. Phenix. Now, I don’t remember a guard on the Main Street side as we drove in.