Mr. Turner. All right.
Mr. Hubert. Now, you have marked a line, having compared it with the mockup, and you have marked it “A-B”.
Mr. Turner. That is the beginning of the——
Mr. Hubert. Of the rise?
Mr. Turner. That’s right. I might be a little off there.
Mr. Hubert. Now, you say you saw Jack Ruby. You had not known him to be Jack Ruby at that time?
Mr. Turner. No; what set him off from other men was the hat he was wearing.
Mr. Hubert. What sort of hat was it?
Mr. Turner. I don’t know the technical name. Could you help me out? It was a felt hat, had a pretty large brim on it, and it was a—round on top, which you seldom see.
Mr. Hubert. Snap brim?