Mr. McKinzie. First, second and third. That is the only—there is three of them, three floors, first, second and third.
Mr. Hubert. Now, is it possible to get into the first floor of the municipal building from the basement by using a—the staircase, the fire escape, the fire escape staircase?
Mr. McKinzie. It is kept locked. They do have a door there.
Mr. Hubert. There is a double door.
Mr. McKinzie. No, sir; they have just an ordinary door made like that one there that you go up the stair steps from the basement, but it is locked. It is—well, it is locked at nights, too.
Mr. Hubert. It is locked. Which side?
Mr. McKinzie. From the—it would be locked from the outside.
Mr. Hubert. From the basement side?
Mr. McKinzie. That’s right. You can come out it. You can come down and come out it, but you can’t go in it from the basement without a key.
Mr. Hubert. Now, if a person was on the first floor, could he get to the basement by using the fire escape stairs?