Mr. McKinzie. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. In other words, the fire escape staircase doors on the first floor of the municipal building are not locked?

Mr. McKinzie. No, sir.

Mr. Hubert. So, you can get into that fire escape staircase, as it were, and go one flight down and——

Mr. McKinzie. That’s right.

Mr. Hubert. And you can open the door down there, that is not locked?

Mr. McKinzie. It is locked, but you can open it from the inside.

Mr. Hubert. Okay, open from the staircase side, so, if you got into the staircase, you could get into the basement, is that right?

Mr. McKinzie. Yes, sir; that’s right.

Mr. Hubert. Now, on the 24th, which was on a Sunday, the Sunday after President Kennedy was killed, were you on duty that day?