Mr. Hubert. It is locked and you would need a key to open it?

Mr. Pierce. That is my sworn statement.

Mr. Hubert. Right. And you did not open it?

Mr. Pierce. I never saw it open at any time.

Mr. Hubert. And you did not open it yourself?

Mr. Pierce. No; but like I say; I checked it, but it was after we knew that everything had happened, and all of sudden, security got to be of such an utmost importance, or the urgency of security was such that I pulled on it to see if it was, but when you said, “prior to,”—prior to that time, I hadn’t, but I do know it was latched at that time. Was actually locked when I checked it manually to see if for some peculiar reason the latch was open.

Mr. Hubert. What you are saying, in effect, is that while you actually tugged on the door after the shooting and found it to be locked, that your check of it prior to the shooting was visual, but that in your opinion it was in a position that it was locked?

Mr. Pierce. It is impossible for it not to have been locked.

Mr. Hubert. It is impossible for it not to have been locked, and that was—that check was made prior to the shooting?

Mr. Pierce. Prior.