Mrs. Carlin. No; he didn’t have authority. He thought he did, but he didn’t, because Ralph would tell him to do what was done.

Mr. Hubert. Had you ever seen him at the Carousel prior to the time that Oswald was shot?

Mrs. Carlin. Yes. Just two or three times. He was sitting down at a table next to the cashier, where the cash register was. He was sitting there with the guy that Joy Dale was going with. I don’t remember his name, but it was a young boy. Tommy something.

Mr. Hubert. That is the gray-haired man you saw sitting with a young man called Tommy?

Mrs. Carlin. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. Who was Joy Dale’s boy friend?

Mrs. Carlin. Yes. They were supposed to get married.

Mr. Hubert. And you saw them, this gray-haired man and Tommy, several times together?

Mrs. Carlin. About two or three times, I would say.

Mr. Hubert. How long before the President’s death?