Mrs. Carlin. Oh, I don’t know. I never did pay that much attention to him.

Mr. Hubert. Were they always together, those two?

Mrs. Carlin. I wouldn’t say they were together. He just was sitting there. I don’t know whether they left together or nothing, whether they were friends or not.

Mr. Hubert. But they were sitting at the same table?

Mrs. Carlin. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. You wouldn’t remember if the two or three times prior to the President’s death that you saw them together were consecutive nights or not, would you?

Mrs. Carlin. No; I never did pay that much attention to either one of them.

Mr. Hubert. Would you think those two or three times, whatever they were, that you saw Tommy and the gray-haired man together, would have been within a week prior to the President’s death?

Mrs. Carlin. I wouldn’t say, because I didn’t pay that much attention.

Mr. Hubert. But in any case, the gray-haired man that you have been referring to subsequently had really a job with the club? That is to say——