Mr. Griffin. What was Jack’s relationship with Gordon McLendon?

Mr. Senator. He just knew him. There was no relationship. He mentioned a lot of names. He mentioned a lot of names to call them for the bond hearing. I remember this. He was trying to get certain people to come to the bond hearing. And he was rattling off a lot of big names. He rattled off the manager, I don’t remember the name, from the Statler Hilton, anybody who was prominent, such as I think the rabbi too if I am not mistaken.

Mr. Griffin. Did Jack appear to want to make bond at that time?

Mr. Senator. I don’t know. He didn’t discuss that, but I do know—I can’t answer unless you want me to surmise something, guess on it.

Mr. Griffin. Unless you have some information which leads you to think how he felt.

Mr. Senator. I don’t have information on that.

Mr. Griffin. Did you ever talk to the lawyers about whether they were really serious about making bond?

Mr. Senator. I think the lawyers were trying to get bond for him.

Mr. Griffin. Did you ever talk with them?

Mr. Senator. No. I will tell you something. The lawyers didn’t discuss anything with me at no time. They said, “George, we are going to use you as a witness,” which I knew they wanted me for that.