Mr. Griffin. Do you recognize that name?
Mr. Senator. No.
Mr. Griffin. Stanley Kaufman?
Mr. Senator. Yes; he is a lawyer.
Mr. Griffin. Had you met him?
Mr. Senator. No; I have never met him, but I know who he is.
Mr. Griffin. Have you talked to Jack about him or has Jack talked to you about him?
Mr. Senator. No; he is, I believe, a civil attorney, and I know that Jack has always called him for conferences of some nature or another, whatever it may be, but I wasn’t——
Mr. Griffin. Was he a personal friend of Jack’s?
Mr. Senator. I assume that he has known Jack for some time. Now, how personal, I don’t know.