Mr. Griffin. Jerry Wilson?
Mr. Senator. I don’t know that name.
Mr. Griffin. Mike Riaf?
Mr. Senator. No.
Mr. Griffin. Tom Palmer’s name is on here, but you have talked about that.
Mr. Senator. Yes.
Mr. Griffin. Ed Pullman?
Mr. Senator. Ed Pullman; yes. Ed Pullman; his wife had worked for Jack for a short spell as a cocktail waitress. She is an elderly woman. Ed Pullman, he is a man who thinks up gadgets, you know. I don’t know how to describe it. He is an idea man.
Mr. Griffin. A promoter?
Mr. Senator. Things that he makes.