Mr. Hubert. The reason I asked is because I was under the impression that after your father left, there was a breakup of the family, and then you were not living in this section of Chicago.
Mr. Ruby. No. We moved west on Sacramento Boulevard. That is when I remember coming back to the family.
Mr. Hubert. What I am getting at are these instances that Jack had to act as bodyguard against the Italian element, as you put it. That was not when you were living in foster homes, was it?
Mr. Ruby. No, no.
Mr. Hubert. Nor was it when you were living on the farm?
Mr. Ruby. No, no, no. That was in Chicago.
Mr. Hubert. So it was either prior to the breakup of the family or afterwards?
Mr. Ruby. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. After the reconciliation, or was it both?
Mr. Ruby. I would say that I remember it was prior.