Mr. Hubert. He was just a teenager then?

Mr. Ruby. That is right.

Mr. Hubert. When the family was brought together again, which was around 1928, where did the family live then?

Mr. Ruby. On Sacramento Boulevard in Chicago.

Mr. Hubert. And that is a different thing from the so-called east side?

Mr. Ruby. Yes; that is further west.

Mr. Hubert. And you didn’t have any such difficulties at that time?

Mr. Ruby. Yes; we did, because even though we were west we were still borderlining the Italian element, but we were further west. But it was an improvement as to the other section.

Mr. Hubert. Now, the family remained more or less as a unit, I gather it is your testimony, until the war came.

Mr. Ruby. Yes, yes. Before the war Jack lived in San Francisco for awhile.