Mr. Ruby. Oh, sure. I see him, he comes in for events, marriages, bar mitzvahs and all that stuff. In fact, I wanted to call him last night because I am so close.
Mr. Hubert. It is a social relationship, social and family?
Mr. Ruby. Oh, yes.
Mr. Hubert. No business relationship?
Mr. Ruby. Well, I was going to have him manufacture the nameplates for me, when I couldn’t sell them to Mario Anesi, he told me business was bad up in New York, so I sent the tools and dies there, but we never used them, never got any sales, so the tools and dies for the nameplates are just there not being used at all.
Mr. Hubert. Now, Edward A. Cobo was the owner of the Cobo Cleaners prior to the time you bought it out?
Mr. Ruby. The junior, I bought it from the junior, his mother and his sister. I think Cobo himself had passed away several years ago.
Mr. Hubert. I think you said he was mayor.
Mr. Ruby. His brother, Al Cobo, was the mayor, but Al and Edward Cobo owned Cobo Cleaners. The mayor owns half of it.
Mr. Hubert. But when you bought it, the mayor had died?