Mr. Ruby. No.

Mr. Hubert. Do you know anyone whose last name is Umberto, U-m-b-e-r-t-o?

Mr. Ruby. No.

Mr. Hubert. Do you know anyone by the name of Kirk Bibul?

Mr. Ruby. No.

Mr. Hubert. What about a person by the name of Elliott Schwartz?

Mr. Ruby. Elliott Schwartz, he is married to another sister of my wife.

Mr. Hubert. Where does he live?

Mr. Ruby. New York.

Mr. Hubert. Do you have occasion to contact him?