Mr. Ruby. That went through my company, I think.

Mr. Hubert. Tell us about that. Did Ralph Paul do any business or come to be indebted?

Mr. Ruby. That was through the club. I sent money down to the club.

Mr. Hubert. Which club? The Sovereign or the Carousel?

Mr. Ruby. I think to organize the Sovereign Club.

Mr. Hubert. Who did you send the money to, and how much did you send?

Mr. Ruby. I don’t recall exactly. I think I sent more than one figure, than one amount, that is.

Mr. Hubert. Tell us about that transaction in general.

Mr. Ruby. I don’t recall. I would have to see—I don’t recall when I sent it because it is 4 or 5 years ago.

Mr. Hubert. Did you have occasion to get a judgment against Ralph Paul, that is to say to sue him?