Mr. Ruby. Yes, I did, because it didn’t pay for me to set up to make 100 plates, because it just wasn’t worth it, you know.

Mr. Griffin. Who did the manufacturing?

Mr. Ruby. Dixie.

Mr. Griffin. Is this your brother-in-law’s company?

Mr. Ruby. Who?

Mr. Griffin. Dixie?

Mr. Ruby. Dixie, no; that is just some people I never even met, but I knew that they made a very similar plate, exactly the same size but slightly different in design, and that I could substitute this for mine. Actually, his was a better plate. It was made out of aluminum, which I did. And so that it wasn’t necessary for me to go through all the bother and expense to set up my operation to make the plate.

Mr. Griffin. That is the Dixie Seal and Stamp Co.?

Mr. Ruby. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. In Atlanta?