Mr. Ruby. Well, it is both. I think some mail order and they have salesmen, which would mean direct.
Mr. Griffin. Do you remember talking with Jack, your brother Jack, about the Mar-Din Co. at anytime last year?
Mr. Ruby. Yes; I think when he was talking about—I am not sure now, but I think that he brought up their name when he was talking to me about going into the manufacture of the twistboard, and he thought they would be a very good outlet.
Mr. Griffin. And do you recall what you suggested to him?
Mr. Ruby. No; I am not even sure of that. I can’t remember a conversation that took place.
Mr. Griffin. Do you remember receiving any telephone calls from Jack in the month of November before the episode down in Dallas?
Mr. Ruby. Yes; we talked about the twistboard.
Mr. Griffin. How many calls do you recall receiving from him?
Mr. Ruby. Oh, at least three or four, I think.
Mr. Griffin. And were they all in connection with the twistboard?