Mr. Ruby. Well, they purchased aluminum salt and pepper shaker sets. That was the main item. And then they also purchased some hammer and screwdriver sets, because at that time I was manufacturing those, too.

Mr. Griffin. Did you deal with these people while your brother Jack was connected with Earl Products?

Mr. Ruby. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. And did Jack know these people?

Mr. Ruby. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. What does the Mar-Din Co. do?

Mr. Ruby. They are distributors of general merchandise, I would say.

Mr. Griffin. Do they do any manufacturing that you know of?

Mr. Ruby. No; I don’t thing so, not that I know of.

Mr. Griffin. What is the nature of their distribution? Is it mail order or direct sale?