Mr. Griffin. Well now, this group that was referred to as the Dave Miller gang.

Mr. Ruby. Dave Miller was a referee.

Mr. Griffin. Dave Miller was a referee?

Mr. Ruby. Yes; Davy Miller was a referee in Chicago for many years.

Mr. Griffin. And he ran a gymnasium?

Mr. Ruby. Yes; to train the fighters.

Mr. Griffin. And did Dave Miller have a following of some sort?

Mr. Ruby. Well, I would say it was—there was a restaurant downstairs and it was a hangout. He owned the restaurant and the gym, and he was a referee so the fighters hung around there and other people came around to see the fighters, so it was a general hangout for people of that type.

Mr. Griffin. Did the Dave Miller gang have anything to do with these efforts to break up the Bund meetings?

Mr. Ruby. I think so, but I don’t have any concrete evidence. I think they did.