Mr. Griffin. He also was away from Chicago from about 1933 to 1937.
Mr. Ruby. Yes; I think he went to ’Frisco to work there; yes. I think he went there. I think my sister was there or he went first, I don’t remember.
Mr. Griffin. Did you know his friend Leon Cooke?
Mr. Ruby. Yes; very well.
Mr. Griffin. Was Leon Cooke of Jewish background?
Mr. Ruby. Yes.
Mr. Griffin. Were you familiar with Jack’s activities with Leon Cooke in the labor union?
Mr. Ruby. A little bit. I think I knew——
Mr. Griffin. What can you tell us about that, what—how long did Jack work in the union?
Mr. Ruby. Well, I know as far as I know, I think he helped organize it. It was Leon Cooke’s idea. Leon Cooke was an attorney and his father, Mr. Cooke, was a scrap iron and junk handler, and for some reason or another of his own thinking he decided that it would be a good idea to organize a union because the—although he was doing very well as an attorney without it, the workers in this industry were being paid, I think at that time, 10 cents or 15 cents an hour, and it was actually slave wages practically, as you can easily understand, and so they organized the union or how they go about it I don’t even know, but they did, Leon Cooke and Jack helped organize it, but I think Leon did all the legal work.